This blog started as a collection of resources for those seeking more information on the decline of the ELCA. It has now evolved into a blog the ELCA's shallow attempt to destroy our Church after we chose to sever ties with them.
John 3:21
Thursday, December 3, 2009
The Games Bishops Play “I need to get a copy of your membership ...
The Games Bishops Play“I need to get a copy of your membership roster with names, addresses, and phone numbers.”Your Bishop or his assistant may contact you to demand a full list of names, addresses, and phone numbers of all yourmembers before your first meeting to vote to leave the ELCA. Your constitution provides that the bishop can be presentat the special meeting, but you are not constitutionally obligated to provide your membership roster to the bishop. Ithas been reported that Bishops are quite aggressive and persistent in getting this list, have used guilt to make peoplefeel that they aren’t good Christians or are somehow unfair or dishonest for not turning over the list, and have beenknown to get the list outside of official channels through a single member in the congregation they know or have strong-armed. Bishops have been reported to use this information to campaign against any decision to leave by sending lettersand calling members in the congregation. Specifically, pastors and lay people have reported that the Bishop used thesecontacts as an opportunity to divide the congregation, turn members against each other, defame the character of thepastor or other church leaders, and frighten people. If your Bishop demands your membership roster, politely say,“We’re sorry Bishop, the constitutional provisions that govern our special vote to leave the ELCA do not require that weprovide you with that.”“You could lose your property.”Bishops have been known to warn congregations that they could lose their property if they take the vote to leave. Thisis a well known scare tactic and is simply not true in most cases. If your congregation was a member of the LCA beforethe ELCA merger, the constitution simply says that you need to seek consent from the Synod Council to sever ties onceyou complete your second vote to leave. The language in that provision of the constitution is broad enough, some say,so that even if a Synod Council refuses to give consent this may not be a binder to keep you in, but you should consult alawyer. In any case, the title to your property rests with the congregation and is not held in trust by the ELCA. If youhave agreed at some point to receive mission monies from the ELCA by accepting the formal designation of “MissionChurch,” the ELCA may have more rights to your property and bank accounts. Again, you may want to consult anattorney about property and asset rights. Though the ELCA has closed down and sold many congregations, there has yetto be a legal battle over property or assets against a congregation that decides to leave the ELCA, though ELCA officialshave signaled that this may not always be their policy towards leaving congregations.“You will not be allowed to participate any longer in Women of the ELCA.”The Bishop finds out that one of your members has some kind of committee or leadership role in Women of the ELCA. Usually the bishop finds a woman that is retired, single or widowed, who is active in the WELCA and contacts her. Oncehe finds out your church is leaving the ELCA, he immediately searches the WELCA membership list to find contactinformation for any of the women in your church. Many times, he gets your entire membership roster by requesting itfrom a WELCA member at your church. The conversations occur more than once as the Bishop positions himself as apastoral presence and builds trust, oftentimes telling the woman that he chose to contact her because she is animportant leader in the WELCA and that he appreciates the incredible ministry she does. Bishops have reportedly talkedto WELCA women about their relationships in the organization and the good fellowship they have there before tellingthem, “It would be a loss if you were no longer in the WELCA, and it saddens me, but I had to call to tell you that if yourchurch leaves the ELCA, you are no longer eligible for WELCA membership.” These calls are usually followed up on by aWELCA staff who hammers away at the woman again, urging her to do whatever she can to stop her church from leavingthe ELCA. Oftentimes she does go to church and make an effort to lead opposition against leaving, unaware that theBishop is using her to divide the congregation.
“Your pastor is getting close to retirement, and you won’t be able to find a pastor if you leave the ELCA, and you won’t know what kind of pastor you’ll get if you do.”
This is another fear tactic in which the Bishop suggests that your congregation will not be able to survive without theELCA, that you won’t be able to find another pastor, or that you can’t trust LCMC or any other denomination to keepgood pastors on their rosters. Churches have reported that Bishops will suggest “off the record” that your pastor has ahealth problem and that he may not be around too long. If you ask for more detail, the Bishop would tell you he is notat liberty to disclose any more. Bishops use these tactics to make a church anxious about their future, but also to createconflicts with the pastor and raise doubts in people’s minds about the pastor’s leadership. Members should talk to theirpastor right away, and trust your pastor’s leadership. The fact of the matter is, Churches that have left the ELCA havemuch more choice and many more options for calling a pastor. Most have experienced significant membership growthtoo. The truth is, the local congregation can do its own background investigation of candidates, no longer bound totaking the ELCA’s word that a particular candidate is qualified. Churches that leave the ELCA will be able to end thepractice of a bishop choosing their pastors. Bishops usually send only a handful of possible candidates to acongregation- the one he wants to place there- and two or three others that he knows the congregation will not see as agood fit. Congregations who leave are free from these games, and oftentimes have a dozen or more candidates toconsider for a pastorate.“I’m not sure what would happen with your pension- you could lose it.”Because pension rules change so often, too many pastors aren’t aware of their pension rights. Bishops have reportedlysuggested or outright stated that the pastor’s pension will be at risk if the congregation leaves the ELCA and the pastorstays. The Bishops tell the pastors that they have to be a member of the ELCA to keep their pension. This makes manypastors afraid to lead their congregations out of the ELCA. Pastors also face informal or formal disciplinary action. Bishops have threatened to remove pastors from the roster after their church leaves the ELCA under the rationale thatthe pastor is no longer serving an ELCA church, or Bishops suggest that the pastor’s name will no longer be provided toother congregations for a future call. Whether or not a pastor attends an ELCA congregation, or is no longer even on theELCA roster, the ELCA cannot touch the pastor’s pension. If the pastor joins another denomination, the ELCA cannottouch the pension. If the pastor would like, he can move his pension to his new denomination. If you or your pastor isunsure about pension rights, it may be worth contacting a lawyer for assistance. You can also email cjconner@revcjconner.com for the phone number of a pastor who has done the financial planning for many pastors who have left the elca. You can get a free consult and a walk-through of pension rules. Character AssassinationMany Churches, particularly larger churches that have left the ELCA, report that desperate bishops go to desperatelengths to keep their churches in. These are Churches, many of them, that contribute hundreds of thousands of dollarsto the ELCA coffers. However, the character assassination tactics have been used by bishops in smaller churches too. One of the most flagrant actions reported was when a bishop gathered a group of church members together outside thechurch and outside the normal channels to strategize with them on how to keep the church in. He actually suggestedways that the group could raise suspicions of sexual impropriety about the pastor, though patently untrue. A runningtape recorder, though, foiled the entire plan. It is a good idea to record meetings you have with the bishop. Anothertactic Bishops use is to claim knowledge about a pastor or Church leader that they say is troubling, but he is not atliberty to share details, only that the congregation would be making a big mistake to leave the ELCA because of this“inside knowledge.” We have discovered that Bishops, unfortunately, lie or make misleading statements to persuade
parishioners to vote against leaving, and have no problem destroying other people’s reputations and impugning theircharacter to achieve their goals.“I set the expectations for the constitutionally required consultation with the bishop.”Bishops have insisted that the consultation required by constitution before a congregation can leave the ELCA isdetermined by him in form and scope. Some Bishops have insisted on leading Sunday Worship, presiding atcommunion, preaching, then holding a “study session” after Church. Many bishops have insisted on more than onemeeting with the congregation. The congregation is not constitutionally bound to allow the bishop to set the terms ofthe consultation, but only to “consult” with the bishop. Some congregations have called a special congregationalmeeting and invited the Bishop to be present to address the church. Many more congregations, however, fulfill thisconstitutional requirement by holding a conference call with the bishop over the phone with the Church council, orinviting the bishop to speak to the Church Council as the legal representative and voice of the Church. While bishops areconstitutionally able to attend a congregation’s special votes, a congregation has no requirement to give the Bishop avoice at these voting meetings. Churches usually opt to define the bishop’s role as observer rather than keynotespeaker. All of this is important to keep in mind, because ELCA bishops use these times as opportunities to drive awedge between members, create conflict, and impugn the character of congregational leadership.“Did you know that…..?”Bishops work hard to create rumors within a church community, using every possible avenue available. They haveenlisted the “help” of other local congregations and pastors to seek out members of a church voting to leave and createanxiety by spreading rumors. Bishops know that members of a leaving congregation have friends in othercongregations- friends that may be more persuasive. Visits from another local pastor, calls from bishop’s assistants,letters and any other kinds of contacts that make a member feel important or special, are meant to build trust and playon ego. Bishops create opposition in a congregation by making certain members feel “special” or as if they are in his“inner circle.” Local pastors may be promised a “bright future” if they can help keep a church from leaving the ELCA. Indeed, we have examples in which bishops have followed through on these promises, rewarding pastors with higherpaying calls or a job in Chicago. By virtue of his authority and office, bishops have been reported to use everything attheir disposal to keep a congregation in. In fact, the Saul-Alinsky model of organizing and strategy employed by bishopsand GLBT/CCM advocates to push through their agendas are heavily employed against congregations seeking to leavethe ELCA. The most important thing church leaders and pastors can do is to foster strong communication and maketheir members aware of what lies ahead with the games Bishops play.Do you know of another game that Bishops play with congregations leaving the ELCA? Email cjconner@revcjconner.co
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Deception, threats, coercion, fear tactics. Has the ELCA joined the mob?
Yes, but they're not the only ones. The Lutheran Church Missouri Synod strong armed me OUT of a teaching job,my health insurance, now retirment. I'm an ELCA member for over 40 years and it's exactly the same in the LCMS. It's the mob..deception, fear tactics, and coercion.
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